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[nev1959]

The Basics of Defending Creditor Lawsuits

This guide provides general information for people who are facing debt collection lawsuits in the civil courts. It is not a substitute for obtaining legal advice in your individual case.

Can a creditor sue me if I owe a debt?

Yes. In fact, these days it is quite common for creditors to file lawsuits to collect debts. In England, the creditor typically files the lawsuit in the county where you live.

What is a debt buyer?

A "debt buyer" is a company that specializes in buying and collecting old debts. If you fail to repay a debt, your creditor might sell it to a debt buyer. The debt buyer will then try to collect the debt from you. This practice is legal. Debts are often bought and sold more than once.

Can a debt buyer sue me if I owe a debt?

Yes. If your creditor has sold your debt to a debt buyer, the debt buyer can try to sue you to collect the debt. This practice is legal as long as they can prove the debt exists.

If I am sued by a creditor or debt buyer, do I need a lawyer?

In an ideal world, every defendant in a debt collection lawsuit would be represented by a lawyer. Practically speaking, however, most low income people who have been sued over a debt will be unable to obtain free legal representation. And hiring a private attorney will often cost almost as much, if not more than, the debt itself. Unfortunately, most low income earners have no choice but to represent themselves in court.
You should not ignore a debt collection lawsuit because you cannot find a lawyer. Hundreds of low income earners defend themselves in debt collection cases every single day, and many do so successfully. Luckily, a debt collection case is relatively simple and straightforward as compared to other kinds of legal problems. Debt collection attorneys often rely on the fact that unrepresented defendants do not know their rights. Fight back by educating yourself about your case! Read the Information in these pages to familiarize yourself with the court process and the issues you will face as a pro se defendant ("pro se" means "without a lawyer"). In our experience, a little information goes an incredibly long way.

What is a plaintiff?

A plaintiff is the party who files the lawsuit. If a creditor or debt buyer files a lawsuit against you, the creditor or debt buyer is the plaintiff.

What is a defendant?

A defendant is the party who is sued by the plaintiff. If a creditor or debt buyer files a lawsuit against you, you are the defendant.

What is a summons?

A summons is your official notification that you have been sued. It tells you how and where to appear in order to defend the case.
What is a complaint?

A complaint explains why you have been sued. It contains the facts and the legal claims that are the basis for the lawsuit. In debt collection cases, the complaint is often very short and may provide very little information.

What is an answer?

An answer is an official written response to a complaint. In your answer, you should write all the defenses that you want to raise in the case.

What is a counter-claim?

A counter-claim is a claim that you have against the plaintiff. The plaintiff may owe you money, or the plaintiff may have violated your rights or caused you some other kind of harm for which you want to recover money damages. You always have the right to file a counter-claim against the plaintiff along with your answer.

What should I do if I receive a summons and complaint?

DO NOT IGNORE IT. You should always respond to a summons and complaint. The correct way to respond is to go to the clerk's office at the address provided on the summons and tell the clerk that you want to file an answer. The clerk will give you an answer form and can help you to complete it.

Is there a time limit for filing an answer?

Yes. If you were served with the summons and complaint in person, you must file your answer within 20 DAYS. "In person" means that a process server came to your home or place of business and gave the papers to you personally. If you were served with the summons and complaint in some other way, you have 30 DAYS to file your answer.

What if the time for filing my answer has already expired?

You should try to file an answer anyway. As long as there is no judgment against you, the court will usually accept a late answer.

What should I write in my answer?

Your answer should contain all the defenses that you want to raise in your case.
If you are rushed for time and do not know what to write, just check the box labelled "general denial." You can always amend your answer later. However, please note that if you want to raise a defense of improper service, you MUST do so in your initial answer, or you will not be able to do so at all.

What will happen if I ignore the summons?

If you ignore the summons, the plaintiff will almost certainly ask the court to award a judgment against you. This kind of judgment is called a "default judgment." A default judgment usually awards the plaintiff everything that it asked for in the complaint, plus interest and court costs. The judgment will appear on your credit report, and it can stay there for up to 10 years if not satisfied. The judgment also gives the plaintiff the right to try to collect money from you by freezing your bank account or garnishing your wages. You can avoid a default judgment by filing an answer and appearing in court.

What happens after I file an answer?

After you file an answer, the court will notify you of your first court date. Your first court date could be anywhere from 1 month to 9 months after you file your answer, depending on where you live. It is very important that you attend this court date. If you fail to attend the court date, the court will award a default judgment against you.

What is the "burden of proof"?

The 'burden of proof" is the responsibility to provide evidence in support of a legal claim.

Who has the burden of proof in a debt collection case?

The plaintiff -- the creditor or debt buyer -- ALWAYS has the burden of proof in a debt collection case. This means that the plaintiff has to come up with evidence to prove to the court that (1) the plaintiff has the right to sue you; (2) the debt is yours; and (3) you owe the exact amount of money that the plaintiff claims you owe. You do not have to prove that you do not owe the money. Rather, the plaintiff has to prove that you DO owe the money.

Know Your Rights!
As a defendant in a court case, you always have the right to "put the plaintiff to its proof." That means that you can insist that the plaintiff come up with actual evidence to prove that you owe a debt. Although you should always be truthful in court, you do not have to admit that the plaintiff's allegations are correct.

What kind of evidence does the plaintiff need to present in order to meet its burden of proof?
If you admit that the plaintiff's allegations are correct, the plaintiff can rely on your admission to win the case. But if you challenge the plaintiff's right to sue you, the existence of the debt, or the amount of the debt, the plaintiff must provide the following evidence to the court:

• Proof that the plaintiff has the right to sue you. In the case of a debt buyer, the debt buyer must prove that it owns your debt by showing the court the contract of sale. This contract is called an "assignment." The assignment must mention your debt specifically. If your debt has been bought and sold multiple times, the debt buyer must present a chain of assignments that goes all the way back to your original creditor.
• Proof that the debt is yours. Usually, this means an original contract with your signature.
• Proof that the amount demanded in the lawsuit is correct. Usually, this means a complete set of bills or account statements. In the case of a credit card, the plaintiff also has to prove that each and every charge on the card was authorized.
All of this proof must come in a specific format, or else it is considered "hearsay," not admissible in court. If the plaintiff fails to meet its burden of proof by coming up with admissible evidence of your debt, the court must dismiss the case.
How can the burden of proof help me get a better outcome in my case?
The plaintiff has to present quite a lot of evidence in order to meet its burden of proof. This evidence is often difficult or expensive for the plaintiff to produce. If your debt is old, or if it has been bought and sold multiple times, evidence of your debt may not exist at all. It is almost always much easier and cheaper for the plaintiff to negotiate a settlement with you than to come up with all the evidence needed to meet the burden of proof. That is why the plaintiff will nearly always want you to agree to a settlement.

Know Your Rights!

If you believe you do not owe the debt, never agree to a settlement. Insist on your defenses and put the plaintiff to its proof. If you have a solid defense, you have a good chance of winning the case.
If you would like to negotiate a settlement, use your knowledge of the burden of proof to make sure you get a settlement that works for you.
If you cannot afford to make a settlement agreement, or if your income is exempt from debt collection, you should put the plaintiff to its proof. There is a good chance that the plaintiff will be unable to meet its burden, and the case will eventually be dismissed.
Remember: If you do not appear in court, you will automatically lose. Showing up is more than half the battle!

[jasonessex]

thanks nev that post was very informative.

[chazblighty]

great post mate this could be very usefull in the next month or
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[mbsosa]

Wow, great post. This was EXACTLY what I was looking for. I just listened to a message on my cell phone from an attorney notifying me of immediate legal proceedings being initiated against me for continued breech of contract. Looks like I am going to be putting all this info to the test. After reading the above, I do feel that I have a fighting chance when I get my day in court, thank you very much

[star3t]

Credit agreement? is that proof as we know it not a contract! as they use that in court!
How can you tackle the Agreement?

[CanalRat]

Good luck, mbosa. Keep us posted

[nev1959]

Credit agreement? is that proof as we know it not a contract! as they use that in court!
How can you tackle the Agreement?

If a debt buyer cannot prove a bill of sale between themselves and the original creditor and persues you to court
they are or can be charged with fraud and or extorsion as they are not the legal owners of the debt.

[star3t]

Credit agreement? is that proof as we know it not a contract! as they use that in court!
How can you tackle the Agreement?

If a debt buyer cannot prove a bill of sale between themselves and the original creditor and persues you to court
they are or can be charged with fraud and or extorsion as they are not the legal owners of the debt.

What if it is the "bank" as the claimant and they have a solictor acting on thier behalf? and they have the credit agreement?

[Starsky192]

Thanks for that post nev.......very interesting. I wish I'd known that a couple of years ago when I agreed to the court that a debt of 4k was mine & ended up as a CCJ & the plaintif had not even bothered to turn up..... Mmm we live & learn eh ?!

So a good solid counterclaim would be the plaintifs use of your name after sending them a copy of your copyright & trademark notice & 3 letter procedure by registered post ?

[adyclegg]

nice