Deregistering your private mode of transport

[guardianofwithinaolcom]

[quote="robfreeman"] Guard,you say tow trucks don't need an M.O.T,are they dear to buy/maintain and run mate? What technically makes it a Tow- Truck or a mobile crane please mate,and does it have to be in full working order?
Hi Rob, My tow truck is MOT Exempt because it lifts the broken down vehicle by means of a crane or spectacle Lifting frame.
Tilt and Slide type Tow trucks do need an MOT, Some tilt and slide trucks have second lift capacity, such as a spec fixed under the Truck which can be extended and lowered to lift in the same manner. I am not sure if these are mot exempt or not. The way I read the law is that if the Tow Truck was specifically purpose built for the job of towing other vehicles and had no other possible function then they are classed as MOT exempt.

My old truck is a 6 seater so can cope with a complete family. I don't have leave them stranded because I can only take one or two front seat passengers. I have full Motor Traders Policy including Social domestic and pleasure use so there should never be a reason to be stopped. But I do begrudge having to pay a corporation for something I do for nothing.

There are other types of vehicles that are MOT exempt too such as old fire engines, as long as the pump is still in situ then its MOT exempt.

here is a list for you, maybe you would like a tram. lol
ANY vehicle less than 3 years old.

Tractors.

Track-laying vehicles.

Articulated vehicles that are NOT buses or lorries.

Works trucks.

Invalid carriages weighing no more than 306kg unladen.

Vehicles that travel less than 6 miles per week on public roads (and only to access property belonging to the vehicle owner).

Hackney carriages licenced by a Local Authority.

Police vehicles.

Electric vehicles.

Trams.

Trolley buses.

Vehicles covered under the Special Types General Order of 1988.

Don't know if you can see where I wanna go with this personally,but a tow truck for me put in a family trust,a diesel one running on "chip fat",[p.s.my mate is doing this with his diesel car]

Would I need additives to put Chip oil in my truck, If I get stopped by the Police they might smell somefin fishy!


Hope this info has been of help mate.

Best regards from Dave.

[robfreeman]

Dave,thank you so much for all the info mate.I already travel legit as an un-named,on a T.Policy Insurance,so looking for a vehicle to run on oil from fat, [my mates own restaurants] that needs no MOT and therefore not registered to me.I currently travel in a legal vehicle,so it can't be taken away if I get stopped,but as I have no name,no address,no I.D,I don't speak,I don't exist etc,I CAN be taken away,for a short while anyway.Quite good fun pal.Thanks again mate,will be looking at this closely now.Cheers bro

[guardianofwithinaolcom]

Let me know what you come up with Rob...As I drive an Iveco Spec Lift truck, I am thinking of having a Suitable Spec=Savers type add on the truck with an arrow pointing to the Spec Frame hahaha.

[robfreeman]

Will do Guardian thanks for all the info pal

[guardianofwithinaolcom]

Come to think of it with all that Steelwork on the back of My truck if I get arrested I can say I've been framed.

[robfreeman]

or they will ask did you STEEL it? Or have you met AL? Sorry that's rubbish.

[guardianofwithinaolcom]

Have I met-al Statutory requirements? lol I will say no just weighed it in and scrapped it. haha

[Powerdemon]

Something new ive learned from Dean Clifford about registering your vehicle.

DVLA hold the legal title to your vehicle which makes them the trustee, they are supposed to protect your interest in that vehicle, you hold the equitable title and can use your property any time you want...you have the ability to use it to perform a function of government in commerce.

Well basically what i mean is that its basically a trust and they are the trustee, you are the beneficiary of the trust, you need to find a way to collapse this trust, then they will be out of the picture right?

[Buffy1973]

Hi guys. My daughters car is registered in my name as she is a student with little income so I tax, insure and MOT the car for her.

The Water Board got shirty with me regarding an unpaid bill, this bill was not valid etc....., but thats not important right now. The bill was in my name.

The upshot was that Sherforce HCEO came to collect on the Water arrears and took my daughters car. We are currently awaiting the date for a hearing regarding the ownership of the car as Sherforce believed it to be mine due to my being the registered keeper.

Anyhow, the way I see it is that the DVLA have breached the Data Protection Act, so I have crafted the letter below informing them that they are in breach of any implied contract between us and that I am now in my rights to break the contract should I see fit. I have also warned them of the penalty for giving out my details to a private third party again.

I'd love to get anyone's opinion on this.


DVLA LETTER RE SHERFORCE

Carol Evans
Customer Services

Dear Ms. Evans

RE: DATA PROTECTION

On February 2, of this year, my daughters car was unlawfully taken by Sherforce High Court Enforcement as a payment for a debt in mine and my husbands name.

My daughter is currently pursuing legal action against Sherforce for the return of her car, however, Sherforce have told us that they made all of the relevant checks to ensure that the car belonged to me.  I questioned their methods and they stated that they had gotten the details of the registered keeper from the DVLA.

I am indeed the registered keeper, due to the fact that I am responsible for paying the road tax etc... as my daughter is a full time student on a minimal income.

I believe that the DVLA are in breach of the Data Protection Act 1998 by supplying my confidential details to a third party.

I would like to know why the DVLA would give out my details to a private company?

What criteria does a private company or individual have to satisfy in order for the DVLA to supply the details of a registered keeper of a particular conveyance?  What are the fees charged for this service?

Before giving out personal information, does the DVLA vet the recipients?

Does the DVLA stress that the details they are supplying are not in any way indicative of ownership?

I have satisfied DVLA regulations by registering the car appropriately.  According to current legislation, 'whoever taxes the vehicle must register as the keeper', this I have done as part of any implied contract between myself and the DVLA.

I now consider that the DVLA have breached our contract, and if a contract is breached by one party, I believe the other party are within their rights to end the contract.  Be aware that my daughter and I are intending to hold the DVLA accountable for the disclosing of private information to a company who have no rights whatsoever to be party to that information.

As I understand it, DVLA hold the legal title to the vehicle which makes them the trustee, and, as such, are supposed to protect mine and my daughters' interest in that vehicle. How were DVLA protecting our interest by giving out my personal details to a third party?

For the avoidance of doubt, A****** *********, D***** ******** and M***** ********, hereby rescinds any and all notices to pass on any personal data whatsoever.  Any presumed authority you believe you have in any respect whatsoever over us is also rescinded.  Any and all Fair Processing Notices and any requisite permission whatsoever you think you have; and any power you believe you have over us whatsoever is hereby rescinded.

Should I find that the DVLA have given out any of our personal details to ANY private company or individual in future, we WILL impose a fine no greater than £2,000.00 per breach.

I look forward to receiving your reply.

Yours sincerely



Mrs A J *********

[robfreeman]

Hi Buffy good stuff.Me and some colleagues are looking in to this very thing.Personally I would also add in the notice for the avoidance of doubt,and for the purposes of clarification,could DVLA clarify that if you being the keeper are not the owner,as their rules define,then they must state JUST WHO IS THE OWNER.IF IT IS THE DVLA,then surely ALL liability and fines,tax,test,parking tickets, etc lie with them.If your daughter owns it,then it is theft and should be treated as so.Cheers good luck