United Utilities

[ceylon]

yes

[BuzzLightyear]

do you know of anyone who has 100% success with a4v?

No, but I know someone who has had 100% success with the no joinder ploy, me

printed off confirmation from the direct.gov website that water bandits cannot disconnect you for ANY reason, other than the place is unoccupied, so you MUST write and tell them it is, then tell them they are running a complete scam, eg Southern Water made £11m profit last year, siphoned off from the likes of you and me for the benefit of a few shareholders, tell them that youre not contributing to their Bahamas retirement fund then.....

sign off with NOT your name Theo.C.Cupier etc

Job Done

Part 2

It's war, some of you may not want to go this far (I did) I removed my joinder by implying change of occupancy, not strictly karmic but my view is that we are at war with an invading/occupying army called the United Kingdom Corporation and there are no rules other than to win

[Justanumber]

Payment of water bills is something i have recently been looking into as i got behind last year.

The water company passed the debt to a debt collector,i still did'nt pay up.

I have now received my water bill for the coming year,with last years arrears added to the total payable.

I'm not on a water meter,and i know they cannot cut me off.

My question is,i have no written contract with them as none of us do.

As they are the offeree is not just simply a case of sending the bill back rejecting their offer ?

[BuzzLightyear]

Payment of water bills is something i have recently been looking into as i got behind last year.

The water company passed the debt to a debt collector,i still did'nt pay up.

I have now received my water bill for the coming year,with last years arrears added to the total payable.

I'm not on a water meter,and i know they cannot cut me off.

My question is,i have no written contract with them as none of us do.

As they are the offeree is not just simply a case of sending the bill back rejecting their offer ?

how i did it was to write back saying that id moved out, i actually paid/was paying up to that point, then when they wrote to the new "occupier" i took it from there, i never accept that i am strawman and deny everything, NO, is a very strong, in fact often underrated way forward, never admit strawman, cut association with "it" and without joinder they havent got a leg to stand on, i realised though (as with most things we're involved with here) never ignore them, they have the right to disconnect empty properties, so state specifically that it is occupied.

people are reluctant to lie, im not, we're at war, anything goes but i also accept that its not everyone's view

[jonnythrombosis]

here's what i sent to the water company - with a copy of my copyright notice

NON-NEGOTIABLE

Elizabeth Anne Swarbrick, PhD, BSc(Hons) - Managing Director
South Staffs Water
Green Lane
Walsall WS2 7PD
CC: Rachel Barber, MBA - Customer Operations Director.


6th March 2012
This is NOT a complaint, a query, a request for a statement/agreement and is NOT to be treated as one. By doing so, you will agree to pay £5,000.00 in damages.
Do not refer to me as Mr/Mrs/Ms or any title, which is a legal fiction and is not me. By doing so, you will also agree to pay £5,000.00 in damages.
Re: Customer Ref: :twisted
Dear Ms Swarbrick,
I would be happy to discuss settlement of any financial obligation I might lawfully owe, as soon as I have received the following documentation from you:
1. Validation of the ‘bill’ (the actual accounting including costs per dwelling of adding chemicals and/or medication to my water supply);
2. Verification of your claim against me (a sworn affidavit or a hand signed invoice in accordance with the Bills of Exchange Act (1882) );
3. A copy of the contract signed by both parties and therefore binding both parties;
4. Unequivocal evidence that South Staffs Water are not medicating myself and my family members by adding chemical additives to the water supply;
5. Unequivocal evidence that the fluoride added to the water supply by South Staffs Water is not a bi-product of the agro-chemical industry and therefore deemed as industrial waste;
6. Unequivocal evidence that said fluoride is not responsible for many health issues suffered by the human population, when consumed i.e. cancer, various bone/skeletal problems and indeed dental fluorosis to name only a few;
7. Unequivocal evidence that there are any benefits to humans resulting from the consumption of fluoride in the water supply;
8. Unequivocal evidence that there are no harmful side effects from other chemicals (including chlorine) added to the water supply by South Staffs Water.
It is my view that every human being has a right to a clean, safe and health promoting water supply and that South Staffs Water are in breach of this human right and therefore in breach of their duty of care. For the whole time that I have dwelt at this address I have spent hundreds of pounds on water filters and cartridges in an attempt to purify the sub standard product that South Staffs Water provides however 12 months ago I became aware that this does not remove fluoride from the water. Since becoming aware of the ineffectiveness of these filters I have had to purchase fluoride free bottled water at considerable expense to myself and my family. Currently our weekly expenditure on bottled water amounts to in excess of £30, as we are not prepared to use tap water for drinking or food preparation. We are also aware that fluoride may be absorbed into the body through the skin of humans particularly when the water temperature is such that the pores are opened thus we are also being supplied with water unfit for personal hygiene purposes. Up until now I have not invoiced South Staffs Water for my additional expenditure on bottled water nor have I invoiced South Staffs Water for installation to my dwelling of an advanced water filtration system and the associated replacement filters. This is a step that I am very seriously considering so be prepared to receive my signed invoices charging South Staffs Water for expenses incurred to obtain water safe for drinking and personal hygiene purposes.
I hereby give you ten (10) days to reply to this notice from the above date with a notice sent using recorded post and signed under full commercial liability and penalties of perjury, assuring and promising me that all of the replies and details given to the above requests are true and without deception, fraud or mischief. Your said failure to provide the aforementioned documentation within ten (10) days, from the above date, to validate the ‘bill’, will constitute your agreement to the following terms:
1. That the ‘bill’ did not exist in the first place;
OR
2. It has already been paid in full;
AND
3. That any damages I suffer, you will be held culpable;
4. That any negative remarks made to a credit reference agency will be removed;
5. You will no longer pursue this matter any further.
6. You agree to pay all fee schedules.
Please Note: I wish to deal with this matter in writing and I do not give your organisation permission to contact me by telephone. Should you do so, I must warn you that the calls could constitute ‘harassment' and I may take action under Section 1 of the Protection from Harassment Act 1997. I may also take further action under the Administration of Justice Act 1970 S.40, which makes it a Criminal Offence for a creditor or a creditor's agent to make demands (for money), which are aimed at causing 'alarm, distress or humiliation', because of their frequency or manner.
Please find enclosed a copy of my Copyright Notice (I refer you to the paragraph 6 of this notice which deals with medications ‘administered’ without ‘consent’. Also find enclosed your original ‘bill’/paperwork’
Yours sincerely,
By:

No assured value, No liability. Errors & Omissions Excepted. All Rights Reserved.

WITHOUT RECOURSE – NON-ASSUMPSIT
Calls maybe recorded

[linzimac76]

I'm going to try the A4V see how I get on

[ceylon]

we moved and someone must of told them who we are anyway we get a letter (no bill) saying the property is empty and there going to cut it off so i NCRTS it job done

[linzimac76]

@ Johnnythrombosis what was the response after your letter?