Billing or prepayment meter?

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Re: Billing or prepayment meter?

Postby exdrogadgy » Fri May 11, 2012 7:35 pm

UPDATE
and this is my provisional reply, on hold for now

CEO
British Gas Energy Limited
Lakeside
30 The Causeway
Staines
Middlesex
TW18 3BY


xxxxxxxxxx 2012

Account Number: xxxxxxxxxx

NOTICE TO AGENT IS NOTICE TO PRINCIPAL; NOTICE TO PRINCIPAL IS NOTICE TO AGENT.


Dear Sir or Madam,

I am sending you this notice; please note it is a NOTICE and not a letter.

Regarding the letter you sent me dated May 8th 2012. Thank you for your response.

Thank you for returning my payment and point out under the Bills of Exchange Act 1882 once an offer of payment has been refused the debt is cancelled.

By refusing payment you have discharged the debt.

For the avoidance of doubt, the banking laws of this country (1882 Bills of Exchange Act, 1869 Bankruptcy Act) state that paying in this way is perfectly acceptable. I would ask that you study the relevant acts; Also lord Denning has confirmed this is a perfectly acceptable payment method. Please see below:

A Lord Denning judgment from 1969, says '“A Bill of Exchange, once tendered has to be treated as cash”

Quote:

"We have repeatedly said in this court that a bill of exchange or a promissory note is to be treated as cash. It is to be honoured unless there is some good reason to the contrary"

(see per Lord Denning M.R. in Fielding & Platt Ltd v Selim Najjar
[1969] 1 W.L.R. 357 at 361; [1969] 2 All E.R. 150 at 152, CA)

Please reset my account to zero.

Furthermore, my promissory note to the value of £175.49 was defaced with biro by one of your customer service staff. My charge for this damage is £175.49, if you could kindly return a cheque payable to xxxxxxxxxxxx for the amount stated. I hope we can refrain from any small court action on this occasion. I will retain the damaged note as evidence.

I trust that this is to your satisfaction and that no further claims against xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx are made. Please forward an updated statement of my account showing the true balance.

Thanking you in advance.


Yours, Without Dishonour, Ill Will or Frivolity. All Rights Reserved. Non Assumpsit.
Errors and Omissions Excepted
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Re: Billing or prepayment meter?

Postby Buffy1973 » Fri May 11, 2012 8:12 pm

exdrogadgy wrote:UPDATE
and this is my provisional reply, on hold for now

CEO
British Gas Energy Limited
Lakeside
30 The Causeway
Staines
Middlesex
TW18 3BY


xxxxxxxxxx 2012

Account Number: xxxxxxxxxx

NOTICE TO AGENT IS NOTICE TO PRINCIPAL; NOTICE TO PRINCIPAL IS NOTICE TO AGENT.


Dear Sir or Madam,

I am sending you this notice; please note it is a NOTICE and not a letter.

Regarding the letter you sent me dated May 8th 2012. Thank you for your response.

Thank you for returning my payment and point out under the Bills of Exchange Act 1882 once an offer of payment has been refused the debt is cancelled.

By refusing payment you have discharged the debt.

For the avoidance of doubt, the banking laws of this country (1882 Bills of Exchange Act, 1869 Bankruptcy Act) state that paying in this way is perfectly acceptable. I would ask that you study the relevant acts; Also lord Denning has confirmed this is a perfectly acceptable payment method. Please see below:

A Lord Denning judgment from 1969, says '“A Bill of Exchange, once tendered has to be treated as cash”

Quote:

"We have repeatedly said in this court that a bill of exchange or a promissory note is to be treated as cash. It is to be honoured unless there is some good reason to the contrary"

(see per Lord Denning M.R. in Fielding & Platt Ltd v Selim Najjar
[1969] 1 W.L.R. 357 at 361; [1969] 2 All E.R. 150 at 152, CA)

Please reset my account to zero.

Furthermore, my promissory note to the value of £175.49 was defaced with biro by one of your customer service staff. My charge for this damage is £175.49, if you could kindly return a cheque payable to xxxxxxxxxxxx for the amount stated. I hope we can refrain from any small court action on this occasion. I will retain the damaged note as evidence.

Love this bit :D :D :D :D :D

I trust that this is to your satisfaction and that no further claims against xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx are made. Please forward an updated statement of my account showing the true balance.

Thanking you in advance.


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Re: Billing or prepayment meter?

Postby exdrogadgy » Fri May 11, 2012 10:19 pm

Love this bit

I trust that this is to your satisfaction and that no further claims against xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx are made. Please forward an updated statement of my account showing the true balance.

Thanking you in advance.

Is it that bit you like or the "furthermore you have defaced my prom note" bit? :D
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Re: Billing or prepayment meter?

Postby Buffy1973 » Fri May 11, 2012 10:25 pm

exdrogadgy wrote:Love this bit

I trust that this is to your satisfaction and that no further claims against xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx are made. Please forward an updated statement of my account showing the true balance.

Thanking you in advance.

Is it that bit you like or the "furthermore you have defaced my prom note" bit? :D


Defacing the prom note, definitely. :D :D :D
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Re: Billing or prepayment meter?

Postby exdrogadgy » Fri May 11, 2012 11:39 pm

Defacing the prom note, definitely.

Thank you. Glad you liked it. :D
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Re: Billing or prepayment meter?

Postby exdrogadgy » Thu May 17, 2012 7:13 pm

In the last few days i have two letters from the energy bandits who seem to forget that i am in dispute with them and until that dispute is resolved they have no right to go ahead with or discuss any kind of disconnection.

Letter 1-From the head of complaints(summarised)

They said sorry that the resolution/complaint is taking so long to be resolved and they are working on it, it is taking longer than expected. In the letter they explain what their complaints handling procedure is about; well i never!

Letter 2-from the head of operations(summarised)

Your gas is now at risk (what about the electricity?) of disconnection. You must pay the amount you owe immediately. Theyve added a £14 admin charge to cover reasonable charges for collecting the debt. They have reiterated that i owe them for gas and electricity. They give me 5 working days from the date of this letter to pay the amount.
They MAY take steps to disconnect my gas supply or replace my gas meter with a prepayment meter, to do this they MAY have to apply for a Court Warrant.
The following charges may be added.
Cost of a visit to your property £54
Application for a legal warrant to enter property per fuel £52
Execution of warrant per fuel £150
Total charges per fuel up to £256
They MAY also transfer my debt to a debt collection agency (they mean sell it)
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Re: Billing or prepayment meter?

Postby hermajestythequeen » Thu May 17, 2012 8:59 pm

extrogadgy

Attached is British Gas Trading Ltd's memorandums and articles of association.
You might want to use this and quote section 4.22 to back up your method of payment.

I'm suprised they returned your prom note and wondered if you had maybe not correctly made it ?
Ive been dealing with Shane Bonney since last year and not had any prom notes returned so its odd they returned yours.

I would also advise to put up trespass notices and notice BG of the fact with a fee schedule.
Ive recently sent them a demand notice for £25000.00 for trespass after one of their employees turned up at my property and theyve gone pretty quiet.

All the best.
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Re: Billing or prepayment meter?

Postby Buffy1973 » Thu May 17, 2012 10:25 pm

Anyone interested in Trespass Case Law, Google Lord Scarman.
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Re: Billing or prepayment meter?

Postby exdrogadgy » Fri May 18, 2012 10:28 am

hermajestythequeen wrote:extrogadgy

Attached is British Gas Trading Ltd's memorandums and articles of association.
You might want to use this and quote section 4.22 to back up your method of payment.

I'm suprised they returned your prom note and wondered if you had maybe not correctly made it ?
Ive been dealing with Shane Bonney since last year and not had any prom notes returned so its odd they returned yours.

I would also advise to put up trespass notices and notice BG of the fact with a fee schedule.
Ive recently sent them a demand notice for £25000.00 for trespass after one of their employees turned up at my property and theyve gone pretty quiet.

All the best.


Thanks Her Majesty

It seems like they may have changed their policy to avert other customers using the same payment method. Maybe Mr Bonney is on holiday and a junior processed the payment. I will scan a copy of the prom note to see if there are any errors. They also scour these pages and get a gist of how people are dealing with these debts and maybe they share their info with other utilities.
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Re: Billing or prepayment meter?

Postby exdrogadgy » Fri May 18, 2012 10:29 am

Buffy1973 wrote:Anyone interested in Trespass Case Law, Google Lord Scarman.


Thanks Buffy.
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